Leninism vs Fabianism: Two Branches of Collectivism [Part 1]
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G. Edward Griffin interviewed by Free Market News Network's John St. George on the two main branches of collectivism, Leninism and Fabianism.
Free Market News Network: http://www.freemarketnews.com/ G. Edward Griffin's organization Freedom Force International: http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/
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| Well said. And ... ( 10 months ago by joeypk12) |
| Well said. And America is the best possible country for the world's first example of socialism. |
| Agreed. A great ... ( 10 months ago by joeypk12) |
| Agreed. A great example of Marx's Theory of Alienation in action. |
| Fabianism, or ... ( 10 months ago by joeypk12) |
| Fabianism, or social democracy, deals primarily with economic law. What laws are you referring to? Are you really afraid of an America that regulates big business, supports working families by protecting unions, takes steps to close the rich-poor gap, and provides universal healthcare? If that's the "communist state" America is moving toward, then it's about time! |
| Laws are constantly ... ( 10 months ago by waypor1) |
| Laws are constantly being written to strip your rights away and your privacy, s1959 homeland security bill recently drafted to deal with homegrown terrorism. Laws written by insurance, health care,oil companys, educations system laws etc etc. Doctrinization of these laws effect every aspect of your life. How long have you been on this planet? I've noticed a little change since 1960. and its not for the better. all government fails eventually this one is heading threre.. |
| America doesnt ... ( 10 months ago by waypor1) |
| America doesnt regulate big bus to protect families, what america are you living in? What you wrote is the opposite of what is happening in this country. Are you a communist expert? just asking no offence implied. I really don't trust most peoples opionion I trust what I see in this world the rest is rhetorical. |
| Global warming is a ... ( 10 months ago by louis12346) |
| Global warming is a hoax its for UN Carbon TAX |
| you forgot the most ... ( 10 months ago by paulb0188) |
| you forgot the most obvious form of "collectivism" - libertarian socialism or "anarchism". Leninism was a manifestation of capitalism, which used "collectivism" as an ideological/political device to maintain power. |
| I think this is a ... ( 9 months ago by numberonedon1) |
| I think this is a one sided, biased account of Lenin. his successor on the other hand was where the socialist democracy failed. I am not in favor of communism but my country has been central socialist democracy since the the 1930s. Marxists are idealistic however taking the necessary steps to ensure a greater distribution of wealth is not a difficult task for example a public health care system and a welfare state, my countries health system is the envy of the world. |
| wow who would have ... ( 7 months ago by irishtrotskyist) |
| wow who would have expected a member of the extreme reactionary John Birch Society to not have a DAMN clue what he was talking about |
| Everyone who uses ... ( 5 months ago by nurbSoldier) |
| Everyone who uses collectivism uses it for power. |
| Wow, who would have ... ( 4 months ago by motiongraphics81) |
| Wow, who would have expected a Communist to label people that give a shit about their country and their individual identities as extremist? |
| Fuck collectivism! ( 4 months ago by motiongraphics81) |
| Fuck collectivism! |
| please don't give ... ( 4 months ago by irishtrotskyist) |
| please don't give me that bullshit, the John Birch Society is rabidly anti-democratic, they provided funding to the overthrow of Arbenz in Guatemala, and to help Pinochet in Chile. so much for giving a shit about their countries. |
| Anti democratic, or ... ( 4 months ago by motiongraphics81) |
| Anti democratic, or pro-republic? No, they give a shit about America, but that's about it. No one's perfect. |
| how? its not in ... ( 4 months ago by irishtrotskyist) |
| how? its not in american interests to invade and oppress other nations |
| Touche, I'll agree ... ( 4 months ago by motiongraphics81) |
| Touche, I'll agree with you on that - it's just that groups like John Birch usually have little effect on foreign policy. I'd address those concerns to the Council on Foreign Relations or the Rand Corporation, if your concern is about private groups that advocate wars. I personally prefer a non interventionist foreign policy, like the one advocated by Ron Paul. That's where the Birchers have their ups and downs, they DO want the USA to get out of the UN, a move I totally support. |
| Big ups on Ireland ... ( 4 months ago by motiongraphics81) |
| Big ups on Ireland ditching the EU, by the way. Given the Capitalist Revolution that's been taking place in Ireland as of late, I'm considering moving there when things here in the states get all 1937 on me. After hundreds of years of getting shat upon, It's refreshing to see Ireland prosper. Proof that real Capitalism - not the Corporatist nonsense we have here in the states - works. Which is funny, because the Neo-Cons are essentially Trotskyites themselves. 0_o |
| well, john foster ... ( 4 months ago by irishtrotskyist) |
| well, john foster dulles and his brother were members of this society in the 1950's. they both wished for a 'rollback' of communism/stalinism, and the imposition of free-market economies on eastern europe,the USSR and China. i'm sure you'll agree, as a former secretary of defence, he did have clout at the highest level. i know what you mean by those other groups, but i don't think any of these groups should be excluded from guilt, as i see it, groups like the AEI deserve a share of the blame |
| all of these ... ( 4 months ago by irishtrotskyist) |
| all of these various groups are ideological organs of the capitalist state, in my opinion. don't know how much my opinion counts for, i'm a bolshevik-leninist so i'm bound to be biased. i think ron paul's 'isolationist' ideal's are unrealistic in an age where the USA is the worlds hyperpower. also, as someone who has studied the writings of lenin, griffins points about lenin and his quote are actually misattributed. |
| not so sure about ... ( 4 months ago by irishtrotskyist) |
| not so sure about your point re the irish economy, we're screwed here at the moment cos the boom was built on credit. like the man who built his house on the seashore, we're about to be engulfed. many people rejected the EU because it interferes with our social welfare and public services |
| The United States ... ( 3 months ago by nurbSoldier) |
| The United States is no hyperpower, it is a cripple with a scary costume. So long as it continues to bury itself in ever expanding debt, it will continue to dig its own grave. |
| Well, it is fairly ... ( 3 months ago by nurbSoldier) |
| Well, it is fairly obvious that John Foster Dulles did not come close to having his way, as evidenced by events of the opposite nature occuring. |
| rabidly ... ( 3 months ago by nurbSoldier) |
| rabidly anti-democratic? Why? Because Edward Griffin and the John Birch Society correctly point out the dangers of the excesses of democracy, how they point out that not all participants are kind or rational, how the little guy must be rescued from a lynch mob and so on and so forth? I don't think that pointing out the historically proven flaws of excessive democracy is extremist in any way. |
| All production is ... ( 3 months ago by shanklinmike) |
| All production is capitalist by definition. watch?v=kxXhqxtmHjo I also disagree with the interventionist foreign policy! watch?v=rRYt4CGISm4 Centralized monopolies always use force and destroy civil liberties! Peace! watch?v=RJeVSTQWaNc |
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